Aquatic Center Looms as Far Worse Fiasco
than Cherry Street Project

by | Nov 10, 2023 | General | 17 comments

What a mess. The $108 million Port Townsend Aquatic Center as proposed to City Council would default in its first year. To calm skeptical taxpayers, numbers are being juggled, massaged and manipulated. Millions of dollars magically disappear from cost entries in order to turn red ink black. Looking closely, one can see there is no money to pay for administration and management during and after construction, thus making the project appear less costly to taxpayers.

But under the pixie dust, above the smoke and mirrors, behind the curtain, the hard, cold reality remains unchanged: economically distressed Jefferson County simply cannot afford something so costly.

Red Ink Turned to Black Ink (Not Quite)

At the same time they were seeking City Council’s endorsement for their proposal, promoters of the aquatic project did not disclose that their calculations showed the aquatic center could default in its first year of operation.

On October 16, 2023, City Council was asked to endorse the proposal from the aquatic center Steering Committee for a $37.1 million aquatic center and county-wide sales tax to pay for it. $22.1 million would be borrowed through a bond supported by sales tax receipts. $5 million, council was told, would be raised by the Jeffco Aquatic Coalition, $5 million from state grants and $5 million from federal grants.

The impressive 30,000 square foot facility being proposed would greet visitors with a high-ceiling, gleaming atrium with expansive glass walls, leading to the natatorium.

Rendering of double-height lobby looking into natatorium and other spaces, from June 16, 2023 Opsis PowerPoint — “Healthier Together Center Feasibility Study” (slide 13)

There swimmers could choose from the cool water 25-yard, 6-lane competition pool (where their form and speed could be judged by those in bleachers built to hold 100 spectators), or they could dip in the warm water of the 3,000 square foot recreation pool, where they could also walk against the artificial current of a “lazy river” feature. Afterwards, they could kick back in the $106,000 whirlpool/spa.

On other occasions, they could rent out the “birthday room” or knock around a ball on the new pickleball courts outside. There would be very nice universal locker rooms, showers, offices, storage space and parking for about 130 vehicles.

“Building Form” from “Healthier Together Center Feasibility Study” (slide 8)

Of course, neither the city nor the county has the money on hand to build this facility. Money must be borrowed — $22.1 million, according to the “final” report.

In our previous reporting, we examined the pro forma upon which the Steering Committee was operating. A pro forma is a projection of annual debt service payments (principal and interest) versus expected revenues from the new county-wide sales tax the committee is proposing. Its purpose is to determine if the bond can be repaid.

The city’s own analysis showed that the project would default its first year. Sales tax revenues would not be adequate to pay the project’s debt. The specter of default loomed even though the pro forma assumed a pollyannish interest rate of 4.5% — something we won’t likely see again for years.

The Steering Committee, City Manager and its Parks and Recreation Strategy Director knew this when they sought City Council’s endorsement of their proposal on October 16. I noticed that in the 316 pages of the Report and its appendices in council’s “packet,” there was no pro forma to show if the project could shoulder the debt load they were proposing. In all those pages not even a cumulative interest amount was stated.  That is an important number.

In calculating the actual cost of the project, there’s more to it than just the construction costs. The cost of borrowing money must also be considered.  That simple calculation was omitted from the material presented to City Council.

So I asked for it. Carrie Hite (Director of Parks & Recreation Strategy) sent the pro forma to me, accompanied by an email in which she wrote: “You ask some great questions and the pool’s financial viability is something we continue to explore.”

This was October 18, two days after the “Final Report” had been submitted to City Council with a request for their endorsement. I then wrote the article reporting that the city’s own internal analysis showed the aquatic center unable to pay its debts and going into default its very first year.

After that report, city staff and the Steering Committee got to work to come up with a more attractive financial picture.

They made stuff up.

What they did was run several new pro formas at 5.5% interest, since their unrealistic 4.5% rate was so obviously invalid. 5.5% is still a very favorable interest rate for a project like this. As of this writing, investment grade 30-year municipal bonds might merit that rate.

But the bond for the aquatic center could very well not enjoy that coveted rating and would have to offer a higher interest rate. How much higher is difficult to say as each bond would be priced according to its individual risk characteristics, and would not enjoy the benefit of a bond agency’s screening and rating.

Consider this: the bond would be floated by a brand-new Public Facilities District (PFD), with no track record, no assets, no money in the bank, nothing in the way of collateral.

The cost of the proposed aquatic center is so large and squeezed so tightly into the limitations of the county’s tax base there are no reserves. If there is a year when the economy hiccups, if costs shoot up unexpectedly, if something big breaks, if the aquatic center does not see the very optimistic 800% increase in use required the first year of operation — there is no cushion, no way to pay bills and no way to meet debt obligations.

This would be a risky bond for investors.

It would be a revenue bond, which would carry a higher interest rate than a general obligation, levy-guaranteed bond paid with property taxes. As the Municipal Research and Service Center explains, “Revenue bonds are not backed by the full faith and credit of the city, and therefore investors consider them somewhat less secure than general obligation bonds. As a result, the interest rate that bond buyers demand may be higher than those on general obligation bonds.”

It will also likely have to be guaranteed by the city or county. It is highly unlikely that anyone will hand over $22.1 million to an untested group of people with no security for the loan other than a guess at future sales tax receipts. Without the city or county putting their assets behind it, this bond could well be rated as below investment grade. That means creditors would demand to be paid a higher interest rate in exchange for accepting more risk.

Enough for a lightning primer in public finance. Let’s look at how $2.1 million has to disappear to turn red ink black.

In response to another request, Carrie Hite provided the latest pro formas they have been considering. You can open the PDF here.

The first 6 years of red ink from the Aquatic Center’s latest pro forma. Note “$20M Bond” is a typo in the city’s pro forma, which should read “$22.1M Bond, 30 YR, 5.5%”.

 

Now you see it, now you don’t.

There is no way the proposal submitted to City Council can work. Not at 4.5% interest over 25 years, as we have reported. And definitely not at 5.5% interest, when the deficit would swell to more than $246,000 in the first year!

The Steering Committee looked at stretching out the term of the bond to 30 years in the hope periodic payments would be affordable. That won’t work, either. The first year shortfall would still be more than $120,000, as shown in the image above.

So what they did was reduce the amount of money to be borrowed by $2.1 million, stretch out the term of the loan to 30 years and cross their fingers as they sat back and waited for Excel to do its thing. Voila! There’s enough money to make it work — just barely.

They’ve also played with cutting the amount financed to $17 million so the numbers look better.

But this project will still cost $37.1 million to build. It has not been redesigned. Nothing’s been cut. Where will that $2.1 million or $5.1 million in savings come from?

Manna from Heaven

In the “Final Report” (now you understand why we have put that between quotation marks) the Steering Committee told City Council they hoped to raise $15 million, with $5 million each coming from gifts, state grants and federal grants. Maybe now they will tell officials and taxpayers they are going to raise even more in order to have to borrow less. So where are those extra millions going to come from?

Regarding those state and federal grants, the minutes of Steering Committee meetings, found at the end of the appendices to the Final Report, are vague at best on this subject. “Maybe,” “could,” and “perhaps” are used a lot. The only state grants discussed are for work outside of the pool, like for a gym. But there is no gym in the proposed design. There is no state grant for building a pool mentioned in the minutes.

The federal grants discussed would only be for seismic resiliency, that is, covering the additional cost of building stronger for earthquakes. But minutes also reveal that the cost of adding seismic resiliency has been shown to exceed the extra money grants contributed in previous projects.

So much for the certainty of state and federal grants.

So maybe wealthy, generous people will give not only $5 million, but go as high as $7.1 million, maybe $10.1 million.

You Go First

The Jeffco Aquatic Coalition has shown no evidence it has raised $10,000, let alone $10.1 million for the aquatic center. According to minutes of the steering committee, they want a tax measure on the ballot before they start their capital campaign. So far, not enough money to buy some faucets has been raised from private giving or state and federal grants.

There is definitely a rush to get this on an April 2024 ballot.

They want taxpayers to go first. Raise taxes, start making most things more expensive in Jefferson County — from Amazon purchases to socks to home construction and improvement — and then they will start trying to get the rest of the money.

So what happens if taxpayers across the county agree to pay higher taxes, the taxes kick in, but the rest of the money needed doesn’t come through?

Seriously, what happens?

Umm, Didn’t You Forget Something?

The budget in the Final Report maxes out all possible sales tax revenue. The numbers are so tight there is no debt or operating reserve. As we have reported, we are being told that the operating costs for the proposed PT Aquatic Center will be about 40% lower than the comparable experience of the Shore Aquatic Center in Port Angeles, which sees about $2 million a year in operating expenses.

Hite suggested in The Leader that the difference in operating costs can be explained by the Shore Aquatic Center having four “tanks” or pools — a competition pool with diving area, a spa/whirlpool, a wellness pool and an activity pool with a “lazy river.” Port Townsend’s aquatic center would have only two, she said.

Actually, PT would have three pools: competitive, warm water with the “lazy river” and whirlpool. Both facilities have almost exactly the same square footage. The PT Aquatic Center would have a sauna, as does the Shore facility. One could predict that the design of the PT facility would be more expensive, with its higher roof line and graded slope, than that of the Shore center.

Regardless, having an additional small pool, the wellness pool, is only a difference in construction costs, not operating costs, and certainly does not explain how the PT Aquatic Center could operate on $742,000 less than the Shore center. Most operating costs are labor. As discussed below, the fact that there is no provision for administration and supervision of the PT Aquatic Center may go a long way to explaining why its projected operating costs are so low. If operating costs inch up just a bit, the PT Aquatic Center ship capsizes.

A closer inspection of the feasibility study provides some answers. We can see what’s been carved out so the PT facility will have lower operating costs than its counterpart not far away.

For one thing, the Shore facility has an executive director. He interacts with the board, manages the tax revenues and grants, oversees state-mandated audits and reporting, responds to public records requests, etc. He oversaw the $20 million upgrade and expansion in 2020. He supervises the facilities manager, head lifeguard, maintenance crew — everything from physical plant to hiring and firing to dealing with the public and government agencies. He has support staff to help him in this essential work.

The budget for the proposed “base” PT aquatics center, on the other hand, not only does not provide for an executive director, bookkeeper and other support staff, it does not even provide funding for a facility manager. (See p. 55 of Ballard*King feasibility study).

  • Shore’s 2023 financial reports shows $158,500 in salaries for administrative staff. The PT Aquatic Center budget is zero.
  • Shore spends $112,000 on its Front Desk supervisor and crew; the PT Aquatic Center is budgeted for only $66,378, with no supervisor.
  • Shore’s budget also includes salaries totaling $118,700 for janitorial and maintenance versus the PT Aquatic Center’s budget of only $71,868.
  • Shore sees janitorial and maintenance expenses for its new facility at the annual rate of $33,200; the PT Aquatic Center budgets only $18,000.
  • Shore has learned its insurance costs $93,900 annually; the PT Aquatic Center budget is only $20,000.
  • Shore spends $71,100 on childcare; the PT Aquatic Center budgets nothing for childcare.
  • Shore has learned from experience to budget $190,000 for materials needed to maintain and repair its 3-year old facility; the PT Aquatic Center budget is only $18,000.

The unexplained discrepancies go on and on until the PT Aquatic Center is budgeted to operate at about $742,000 less annually than the comparable Shore Aquatic Center.

How can such a large facility be run without anyone in charge?

Answer: local government would provide management and administration and bear the cost.

That is an explicitly stated assumption in the Ballard*King budget. (See p. 46). Accordingly, no costs associated with administration are entered into the aquatic center budget; these costs would be off the books in a local government budget. But neither the city nor county governments are going to manage the aquatic center.  The city that is heading over a “fiscal cliff” certainly doesn’t have the money.

It is being suggested that the YMCA will manage the facility. But there is no money anywhere in the budget to pay the YMCA.

And who, pray tell, is going to build the new aquatic center?

Not the city. Not the county. It will be a brand new agency called a Public Facilities District (PFD).

This new agency will have to complete the design, engage architects, engineers, put together bid packages, solicit and analyze bids, negotiate contracts, hire and pay construction costs, inspect and approve work and change orders, seek and manage grants, meet state auditing and reporting requirements, comply with public records and open meetings law, serve the appointed board of the PFD, etc. They will need an office, telephones, copiers and lighting so they can see while they work.

The Port Hadlock sewer project needs a crew of about a dozen people to oversee construction.

There is no money in the budget for anyone to get the new aquatic center built and opened!

Even after construction, the PFD will have legal obligations and work that must be done as a governmental entity. But there’s no money to fund a PFD. None.

As If More Consultants Were Needed — Actually, They Are

The Final Report recognizes the work of seven consultants, including a “public engagement consultant.” Missing from the list is a much more critical consultant: the bond, or financial consultant. It is a wise and common practice for public agencies that will be seeking bond financing to engage the services of a bond consultant, such as Northwest Municipal Advisors, who have worked with local governments and public entities in Jefferson County.

They create pro formas using realistic market rates because they work in the bond market every day. They understand that bond financing is very different from, say, mortgage financing. An amortization schedule for a municipal bond will be quite different than the simple pro formas being considered by the Steering Committee. When it comes time, the bond consultant would be the debtor’s negotiator with lenders.

The bond consultant may arrange the short-term bond anticipation note — the equivalent of a line of credit to be used to keep the project going before the funds from the long-term revenue bond are available. That also has been overlooked in the Steering Committee’s calculations.

The interest that would start being due at the beginning of the project will likely be capitalized and rolled into the principal of the long-term revenue bond, raising the dollar value of the amount financed — another omission from the Steering Committee’s calculations, but something a bond consultant would catch.

Then there will be the bond underwriter who raises the capital for the bond.

State law and IRS regulations require engagement of bond counsel. They provide a professional opinion that everything is legal (to oversimplify matters) and that the bond would qualify as tax-exempt.

All of these people have to get paid. Their compensation will come out of a percentage of bond proceeds, which is accomplished by increasing the principal amount of the bond. Thus, a $22.1 million bond would be increased to, say, $22.5 million or maybe more to cover these fees.  Taxpayers effectively borrow money to pay these people, as well as borrowing money to pay capitalized interest. That raises the periodic payments and increases the cumulative interest paid over the term of the bond.

None of this is factored into the calculations underlying the “Final Report” and Recommendation — most likely because the Steering Committee spent money on a “public engagement consultant” instead of a bond consultant. The operating and financing costs are thus seriously understated, as PR to sell this to the public was prioritized over crucial bond expertise

The work is hugely incomplete. There are holes in the budget, with necessary items not budgeted, and hopes and prayers plugging the gaping holes. Taxpayers are being rushed into taking the first leap into the murky waters with city councilors being herded into endorsements without getting a complete picture of how bad this thing is.

Cherry Street Project on Steroids

This really is a mess. It is much, much worse than what we saw with the Cherry Street Project. There are so many parallels with what went wrong with what was also a well-intentioned, but fatally flawed undertaking.

Faulty financials:

The Cherry Street Project was created with “bogus” numbers. The feasibility study for the aquatic center, on which everything must stand, is, frankly, garbage. The community is supposed to bet $108 million on the judgment of a consultant who thinks that Mountain View Pool is in Kala Point and Port Ludlow’s pools are on Bainbridge Island. That consultant, as we just discussed, wrote a budget for the aquatic center that has no one in charge.

Like the “bogus” numbers underlying the Cherry Street Project, the bogus numbers underlying the aquatic center are being ignored in a rush to get this on an April ballot.

No unbiased, non-vested confirmation of feasibility:

The Cherry Street Project was pitched and defended by consultants hoping to land a nice contract to execute the project. The same thing is happening here.

Only those who stand to gain a piece of the action — be it Opsis, the architect, or the YMCA — are presenting this project to the public and decision makers. There has been no independent double-checking of the (shoddy) work of the consultants — except by the volunteer citizen journalists of Port Townsend Free Press.

Rush to approve despite warning signs:

There is a rush to just get the money from taxpayers and figure it all out later. We saw this with the Cherry Street Project when hard, cold numbers spoke failure, but city councilors charged ahead out of a sense of haste and not wanting to get bogged down with details or appear to be a dissenter and nit-picker.

If Cherry Street taught a lesson it is this: it is a lot easier to avoid sliding into a project than it is to get out of one.

We were a voice crying in the wilderness when no one wanted to hear of any problems with the Cherry Street Project. Our analysis — which was always based on the very documents and data available to city council and city staff — proved correct. It was a tragedy that the Cherry Street Project ended in such a costly failure and that it dragged out so long.

City officials say they learned their lesson from that fiasco — but have they really?

Seven years later, chalking up a loss of $2 million, the City of Port Townsend has accepted a bid to tear down the never-rehabbed, asbestos-ridden Cherry Street “demonstration project”. That loss pales in comparison to the $100+ million gamble of the proposed aquatic center.

 

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For reports on the many other red flags and alarms in the critical feasibility study upon which this shaky edifice is built see:

Drowning in Red Ink: Mountain View Pool and the Proposed Aquatic Center.

Aquatic Center Feasibility Study: It Gets Worse.

The $108,941 Pool Could Default Its First Year.

Related articles:

Mountainview Pool–By the Numbers.

Aquatic Center Beats Out Streets and Core Services in Task Force Report.

 

 

Jim Scarantino

Jim Scarantino

Jim Scarantino was the editor and founder of Port Townsend Free Press. He is happy in his new role as just a contributor writing on topics of concern to him. He spent the first 25 years of his professional life as a trial attorney, then launched an online investigative news website that broke several national stories. He is also the author of three crime novels. He resides in Jefferson County. See our “About” page for more information.

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17 Comments

  1. Joan Best

    I would like to get comments on all ptfp articles and comment strings in my email feed. I don’t see a way to do this without commenting on each article first. Your work on our behalf is much appreciated, Jim. Stephen, the election return on David Faber showing a high number of write ins is proof of reader response to your efforts. I am considering asking our state reps to modify the law so there is more time for candidates to get on the ballot next time.
    Joan

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  2. Q. Wayle

    Sounds like beyond-gross mismanagement, and I hate to say it, but the people deserve who they voted in. Yes, that is unfair to those that voted for other candidates to run the city, but for the people that voted these incompetent miscreants in– or didn’t vote at all– you have what you deserve and only yourselves to blame. For the others, my heart goes out to you.

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  3. Dawn C Whitney

    According to the Leader article this week, there isn’t any guarantee that the YMCA will manage the new pool in PT. Also, I read a post on a PT Facebook community group that a county resident wanted to use the current pool but the posted hours on the YMCA website were incorrect so they wasted their time and fuel trying to use the pool.

    This seems even worse than the Cherry Street project due to the steering committee which speaks volumes. If the PFD comes to fruition, it could possibly raise our property taxes county wide without a vote of the people.

    I cannot afford anymore taxes levied against my property even though I have paid off my mortgage. I don’t know yet what the take over of EJFR is going to add to my property taxes. I was surprised receive my new tax assessment in October instead of January…..

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  4. julie jaman

    I received an invitation to the Monday Nov 13, 5:30 Council workshop (walk around the Mt. View Pool) and the 6:30 JAC (Jefferson Aquatic Coalition) hype of “Healthier Together” for getting out voters. There was a link to the plan JAC wants Council to agree to.

    The building concept is pure ugly although it could be used for any of a number of bigbox stores, that is if PT allowed big box stores. The design shows two parking lots, one of which is conveniently located in the area of the current parking lot. It appears it will serve the municipal uses in the old classrooms building, not the pool. The other swath of asphalt will lay on the Gaines St. right of way accommodating about 50 vehicles.

    The plan states “Binary locker rooms and universal / gender-neutral changing” but there is no drawing showing showers – private, binary, or for the public non swimmers. One wonders at the necessity of a birthday party room and the huge lobby with two-story ceiling.

    JAC is pushing for competition length pool for the swim team. The girls’ swim team of about 15 practices from mid August to mid November. They have adapted to the shorter pool length and have the fastest flip turns in the league. Diving is part of competition but that won’t be allowed in the new plan. Is the swim team important enough for a new $40M pool?

    The plan also shows a therapy pool. For years physical therapists up at Jefferson Health care have asked for a therapy pool. Their CEO could build one for less than $1M.

    About use of the current pool. Currently it is open part time as it has been for the last year or so: 5-1/2 hrs on T, Th; 7 1/2 hrs Mon, Wed; 5 hrs on Fri; 4 hrs on Sat. The problem, we are told, is a lack of life guards. Is the plan that a shiny new play place will bring the masses, including life guards?
    There are deep and generous pockets in this town, but will they pony up for this generic looking and named facility that misses all the thoughtful small-town aesthetics, setting its homogenized square footage as the $40M prize – now, anywhere USA.

    PS. If you are interested in the negotiations for the golf lands that council will vote on Nov 20, they also are meeting on Nov 13 at 5:30. People being asked to chip in millions of dollars should be able to hear about both of these projects, not have to choose between them. Further, if the pool bond fails, that could very well impact what is needed at the golf course.

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  5. Harvey Windle

    Pay attention to the people behind the curtain Dorothy. When we speak of “the city” these days it is Faber/Mauro. Minions hired will tow the party line. Empty vessels abound that will fill positions on boards and staff. Don’t question too much. Play along and be part of something bigger than you could ever be on your own. Don’t think. Be a team player. A recipe for disaster.

    A centralized large pool with more than needed bells and whistles means many if not most will have to drive long distances to use the pool, The proposed parking lot shows that. Many already financially tapped out will be paying taxes for something they will never use.

    Regarding the long drives to a central pool complex Faber recently said “I believe we should be incentivizing people to
    drive as little as possible.” I hear the city manager’s priorities in these words as well.

    Where is consistency? David Faber also recently said “I simply do not believe the conclusions of the parking study (millions of dollars in lost business) have any veracity. Again, Bordeaux, in France, is instructive for discussions of parking reform. When they eliminated all vehicle traffic in their downtown, the business community went ballistic.”

    Stay with me, this same mind and that of Mauro are behind the curtain that obscures the reality of the proposed pool complex.

    I did my due diligence and checked out Bordeaux in France. Maybe I have lost it and don’t know it. I see it all the time.

    Here is a map of Bordeaux. http://www.mappery.com/maps/Bordeaux-city-Map-2.jpg
    The population is 991,000. PT just over 10,000
    It seems to be much different in layout and size than Port Townsend. I bet they can afford a big swimming pool with all that tax money and swimmers. But there is not here. Nearly a million is not ten thousand. It is 100 times more. But comparisons work for David Faber.

    Did David Faber ask himself before limiting cars was there a significant stable and proven way visitors came into the closed off area? What distance did the average visitor travel? Surely the entire city was not car free. Perhaps a small area surrounded by residences and served by established transit fed specific types of business. More car travel will occur with a central pool for the county.

    Are there lots of tour busses bringing in significant numbers of visitors or customers? Rail or light rail transporting people? How will people get to the pool of dreams. They will drive.

    If pools are needed, decentralized smaller pools would serve those paying for them and bring jobs to smaller communities. Less far to drive.

    Decisions and policy from the proven flawed and delusional center of Faber/Mauro/Council are bound to be ill conceived. Subject to groupthink. That includes council or boards or committees. Survival in the PT eco system is keep head down and keep your position.

    Cook the numbers. We will deny responsibility later. Team players.

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  6. Eric DeWeese

    Jim apparently you don’t understand how higher interest rates make things more affordable –
    Hite noted that the pro forma Scarantino is using employs the original pro forma the steering committee had explored, at 4.5 percent.

    “The bond rate, at 5.5 percent, is not in the negative,” Hite said.
    (From the Leader article that is basically trying to rebut your article – congrats on setting the tone!)

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  7. Sylvia Heins

    I’ve been watching this all unfold, including attending one open house at Fort Worden, and one singular idea keeps occurring to me: “wouldn’t it be so easy to have free or low-cost a shuttle that would bring people to the Sequim aquatics center a few times a week?” If you ran the numbers they would dwarf in comparison to what we’ve got here.

    I shouldn’t be the one making this suggestion. Long ago – if they were using their imaginations and doing their jobs- it would have been our city and county leadership. It’s so obvious and simple.

    I understand and feel for folks who want the health benefits of a good pool facility, it can make all the difference in mobility and health in general, but its silly to go through any more of this play-acting called ‘visioning’, replete with reckless spending on committees who could care less about our community. With a shuttle, everybody wins, and those who need it can enjoy the benefits of a great aquatics center right away.

    Maybe people are so bored with their lives or living in a small town that they hatch these very dramatic ideas and then strut and fret upon the stage. This aquatic center, at reality of it, is a childish, untenable dream.

    And in pursuit of fulfilling it, the important things, such as having decent roads and a buffer of cash for likely emergencies such as: a broken water line/s downtown, the sliding of a cliff onto the highway between Penny Saver and downtown, a lawsuit over a fatal crash due to edge lanes, a lawsuit over a bad crash due to no stop signs uptown, and myriad additional liabilities that some attorney firm would love to sink their teeth into under in the right circumstances – are ignored because they are not progressive or exciting enough to merit serious conversation. PT has been tempting fate for a long time. We should be careful as we proceed forward. Statistics are not in our favor.

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  8. Paul L

    A comparable aquatic center development is currently going on in Lake Oswego, OR. The costs are about the same as the PT proposed one at $37mil. Lake Oswego is the richest area in Oregon. It has a population of around 40,000 people.

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  9. juliejaman

    Plan B, perhaps $3 or 4 million, something a bit more reasonable for this tiny town.

    Mt View already has a building with a gym including a stage and bleachers and a natatorium with locker rooms.

    Outside there is space where the playground existed for years until the city removed it. There is already concrete for basketball and pickleball. There is already parking. These existing spaces have maintenance and repair needs along with some creative remodeling i.e. redesign parking area for more autos. Clean up, repair and replace the outdoor playground and courts. Repair and remodel gym for indoor recreation and use as an emergency heating and cooling center as well as a meeting area. Replace the pool HVAC and pumps with systems that will work for the existing pool and any new pool design in the future. Repair and maintain the tank – doable, affordable – all tanks need such care. ADA doors already exist ($5 thousand each). Redesign entry way to include a non-binary dressing shower area for the very few people who may want this. The locker/shower rooms, in my past experience, are never overly crowded; keeping them clean and well maintained is essential.

    The pool has a deep end for diving; the swim team will have the fastest flip turns. The hospital has space for a therapy pool. Kids will always have fun playing in water, there is no need for a “lazy river” tangle of plastic – that idea is being pushed by adults.

    The single biggest goal should be to re-open the pool all day, as it used to be, from 6 or 7AM to 7PM, more convivial management.

    A couple of big dreams: move the dog park to the fair grounds and plan for low income and affordable apartments built on the existing tennis courts and unopened Gaines St. area, centrally located and shovel ready.

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  10. Devon

    I am not a homeowner within the city limits or out in the county. But I am a renter. Like other homeowners, my landlord does not want this pool nor the taxes that will be imposed. So much so, that my landlord will sell the house that I am currently renting. So I could end up being homeless because a few people want to go swimming.

    It’s not that I don’t think there should be a pool. I think wasting all of this money for a pool is uncalled for and it’s worthless. This is how the city council has been spending money for years — wasteful. Shouldn’t things that are more important like the homeless situation be number one on the list rather than people dipping into the pool to get their toes wet in the summer?

    And for the people who think this is a great idea because now all of a sudden it’s gone from a pool that was going to be ADA accessible and have a better filtration for the water and better health features is now turning into a resort to have a hot tub and competition races.

    When a friend and I thought, hey, it would be great to go to the YMCA pool and maybe get a little bit of exercise in, we were shocked at how much it cost a month. It was about $600 and this was about 3 years ago. Who has $600 to pay to go swimming in a pool? I think I would rather go dip my toes in the Hood Canal water.

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  11. Joan Best

    My thoughts exactly, and well said, Sylvia. I would sign up with an old woman’s van [including Julia, hopefully] that would come around and pick us up once or twice a week. I’d even invite some old men, as long as we had separate changing rooms. As a retired attorney, I can attest to the lawsuits-waiting-to-happen problem that abounds in Port Townsend. I am particularly fond of the large, low white concrete bumps on Washington near the mini-roundabouts, that will be invisible when it snows. I suggest we have lunch some day and make a list.

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  12. Paul L

    Jim,
    Thought you’d be interested in the Lake Oswego project and the demographics of the area.

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  13. David Lewis

    Trash the pool idea, fix the roads, help the homeless and set up a fund to help the animal shelter too…yes maybe remodel existing pool what a thought lol…oh and get some good citizens in power that really care about the Olympic Peninsula and how special it is …

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  14. Rod Stevens

    So, PT’s experience with PDA’s (Fort Worden), has been so good that it now wants to form another one, for a pool? The community needs Dave Robison’s daft…er… deft touch.

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  15. Ben Thomas

    Jim, I have to hand it to you for putting in the time, the commitment and the miles in the cause of getting the community involved. I’m glad I finally got to catch one of the gatherings (last night in Brinnon). I was impressed with the quality of the conversation and the way you facilitated it to make sure everyone felt heard. Through it I got a much better sense of the argument against the current plan. My hope, as I said in the meeting, is that enough adjustments can be made in the plan to eventually build a new pool – either in PT or in Hadlock – or renovate the existing one (though I’ve heard so many reasons why that may not be possible, or worth the money), and that we focus on the pool we can afford, even if it’s not the pool with everything we want.

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  16. Harvey Windle Collateral Damage

    Seems that the term “public servant” often describes folks not on the public payroll. Jim Scarantino, Annette, Ana. and Stephen have been doing a public service. Thanks for all the volunteer hours and days. And years. Without fear.

    I hung banners yesterday outside my business and cultural outpost that lets all know that I am relocating to Port Hadlock. It is going to change just as Port Townsend has in my short 27 years here. Barring any major upheavals. Details on my website of the next steps in the journey. https://www.forestgems.com/

    There are unanswered follow up questions here and elsewhere to Ben Thomas and David Faber. “Some try to tell me thoughts they cannot defend” stuff. Faber wanting to model PT after Bordeaux France where he claims cars were banned and things exploded economically. Explain the details relevant to here please. Explain how people get to your centralized mega pool David/Mauro. Cars. From as far away as Brinnon.

    In an attempt to button things up for myself before moving on, Ben was left with the question of council’s employee Mauro accepting and using the expensive fraudulent “study” by Ballard King that wasn’t even based in this town. Was Mauro’s use of that also fraudulent? Did he not notice? Both are unacceptable for an “almost perfect” $200,000 a year 5 week vacation employee setting policy that council should be setting., The Horse/Cart is council instructing him of constituents needs. Is there no responsibility for Mauro and Ballard King?

    We don’t do responsibility here. See Cherry Street, Fort Worden, parking and the proposed 50 unit hotel with 11 parking spaces as just a few examples. Team players unite!

    Faber, Howard, Rowe, Wennstrom and others should be coming up with non damaging ideas and policies after regular in person contact with their constituents. Instead there is Mauro’s “engage PT”. A shredder waits at the end of his bait and switch process for non conforming ideas. Like the Delphi technique he and consultants used for “public input”.

    Fresh in my mind still is this from another comment I made months ago impacting my future here in PT…… “After Faber fanned the flames following the attacks that shut down the free speech at the women’s rights rally as police stood by, I removed much of my inventory from my business because escalation and MORE violence seemed probable”. It’s not a game little man. Not a game. Many forget. It is important for the likes of appointed mayor Faber that people forget. I have much to lose. I can’t forget.

    It is important in bad relationships that you move on. Looking back and not always forward will cause you to trip. I will be commenting here less as my stake in PT diminishes, until Mauro and crew come for my tax money in Port Hadlock.

    I have said that George Carlin and George Orwell whisper in my ear at times. One last observation from Carlin. I hope I have done him proud. It is tagged as relevant to the 2016 election although George left us years before. He lives on and on. He claimed not to care about humanity. I think he was protecting himself and playing a character. Quite well.

    Thanks to all from near and far for 27 years here. I see no future in Port Townsend. Money yes, long term future no.

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